"A minister in Belarus cannot but be an accomplice to the crimes of Lukashenka's regime": Kaverin explained why he became so radical

"Since I started working on 'Obychnoe utro,' it seems to me that I have become much more radical towards Russia. And not only because it is fighting with Ukraine, but also because my eyes have been opened to many things in Belarusian history," Kaverin said.

Konstantin emphasized that he is not a historian but stated that he considers some actions of Russia towards Belarusians to be genocide:

"That is one hundred percent. It was a cleansing of the nation. Why am I speaking Russian with you now? Because I am also a product of this cleansing, of this genocide to a certain extent."

At the same time, Kaverin himself believes that he has become more Belarusian in recent years.

"It seems to me that I have become more Belarusian than I was before. That's what I think. I hope so."

Nasta Rovda suggested discussing one example of the host's radical statements. A few years ago, after the untimely death of Minister of Transport Aliaksei Auramenka, Kaverin's comment was heard on "Obychnoe utro": "One less criminal."

"It seems to me that on the other side there are also many people trying to do something. That not everyone there can be criminals, that not everyone can be bad people. What do you think about that?" Rovda asked.

"That's what I think. That's how it is. That there are people there who try... But they are not in leadership positions in this 'social democratic party.' Today's minister in Belarus cannot but be an accomplice to the crimes of Lukashenka's regime," he stated.

"And it doesn't matter if it's economics, transport?" Rovda clarified.

"Not at all. You are automatically a beneficiary. That's it," Kaverin replied.

According to Konstantin, such statements are another reason why he will not return to Belarus. "Because they won't forgive me for this."

At the same time, Kaverin admitted that he understands how his statements might look from the outside:

"For someone with a delicate mental organization, quite educated, it's hard to look at this."

Kaverin noted that there are people who, in his opinion, convey roughly the same thoughts in a more acceptable form. Among them, he named Alexander Rodnyansky, Artem Shraibman, Alexander Klaskovsky, and Alexander Fridman.

Kaverin explained his manner of speaking by his inherent straightforwardness.

"In my defense... How to say this? I'm as simple as a proletarian cog. We sniffed glue with the guys, you know. In my defense, I'll say: 'Yes, damn it, sometimes I probably lack precisely that education, some kind of intelligence, maybe even innate. For which I apologize. But at least I don't lie.'"

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